This article “About Harrassment in Startups” originally appeared in Spanish on Forbes by Daniel Bilbao, CEO at Truora.
This article is not easy to write, but itās a topic that isn’t getting enough attention. In womenās month, we will be discussing gender-related topics as professionally and honestly as we can. All feedback is welcome ā contact us at [email protected].
A week ago, I was sent a WhatApp conversation which left me speechless. The co-founder of a Mexican startup, feeling empowered by his title, made this offer to a potential candidate: āhow much for a night? 3,000 MXN?” (about $150 USD). The full conversation follows:
Co-founder: Hi
Candidate: ?
Co-founder: Iād like to see you
Candidate: Could you please explain these random texts at strange hours?
Co-founder: No, thereās no rational explanation
Co-founder: But I get it, youāre not interested
Co-founder: š
Co-founder: How much could I pay you for a night?
Co-founder: 3000?
Co-founder: š
Co-founder: ?
Hereās the original conversation:
The news reached me because Nathan Lustig, an investor at Magma Partners, shared it on the founders network of their portfolio. āThis is exactly what we will never tolerate from our founders.ā It was both a call to reflection and a clear reminder: āIf you ever do anything like this Iāll make sure your career as an entrepreneur is over.ā I was delighted to see that message.
Then I thought for a while. āLetās see what happens. Are we still in the Latam of the 80s? Have we progressed enough to deem this unacceptable? Are we still the same?ā. I contacted the woman who made the accusation and thanked her for sharing her story.
Living in Silicon Valley, there has been a clear turning point before and after the #metoo movement. Tolerance towards this kind of behavior has shifted dramatically. A founder who behaves in this manner in the US is fired within a week after a swift investigation.
Surprisingly, this is exactly what happened in the case of the Mexican startup. It would seem like the reign of sexism is coming to an end in Latinamerica and weāre witnessing the dawn of a new era.
I really wish that was true, but letās not kid ourselves. Thatās not the case, not in Latam, and not in the US, either.
Granted, there are many more investigations now, more people are fired due to harassment in the workplace, and more tips and training on how to handle workforces. All of these are clear breakthroughs, but donāt believe for a second that entire companies changed their behavior overnight. Or that the marriage between startups and venture capital stopped being sexist and predatory. I wish it did.
Undisputable numbers, however hard to believe for us (men)
I know Iām writing this for two very different groups of people: men, who feel uncomfortable about the subject and who generally donāt believe the actual figures; and women, who know very well how real those figures are and how scarcely discussed this topic is.
In 2016, renowned Silicon Valley investor Tray Vasallo conducted a survey of over 200 women who had been working for over 10 years in the tech industry. Her findings are astonishing:
- 60% reported unwanted sexual advances or behavior, 65% of them reported that at least one advance was from a direct supervisor.
- 39% did not report their case for fear of damaging their careers. And of those who reported their cases, 60% were not satisfied with the outcome.
I couldnāt believe these numbers the first time I heard them. After asking several partners if those numbers sounded reasonable, I stopped doubting. If youāre like me and you donāt believe these numbers are real, ask the next woman you see.
A few stories to get my point through
I was speaking with a partner from a small fund in Silicon Valley and he explained that he had tried to fund women. But a female founder once admitted, āI hope I can handle this.ā He saw this as a red flag and decided not to fund her business because she ādidnāt have what it takes.ā That and the fact that she said she was planning to have a family at some point down the road, and at 32, it was likely to happen soon. Since she didnāt have co-founders it made no sense for him to fund her because ābuilding a startup is too much work.ā
Itās worth noting that I and absolutely all founders I know have thought āI wonāt be able to handle thisā on the other hand, having children and building a startup is completely possible and happens all the time. Assuming someone is not going to work as hard because sheās a woman is a sexist mindset and says a lot about his parenting expectations rather than what is truly possible.
This story isn’t an isolated case. All female founders that I know are nodding as they probably think: āIf they only knew!ā. The āawakenedā investors think, āunfortunately, thatās how things are right now, but weāre getting betterā and my investors are thinking āvery brave of you, thanks for bringing this topic up, letās hope you point out how weāre different before you end the article.ā They are, and Iāll tell you why at the end.
Letās get to a second story, one from Latam
This week Iām having a feud with a couple of founders who are friends of mine. This is because they went far beyond inappropriate with a woman on my sales team. One of these founders told her āYou truly are smoking hot. When can we talk?ā and the other invited her to have dinner and drinks to close two contracts.
Do you think Iām exaggerating? Well, no, Iām not. When a woman from your team feels uncomfortable because of a customerās comment or users staring at her, itās not because sheās self-centered or delusional. Itās because sheās been there before, and been exposed to these practices for years, or decades. They have to decide whether to hit their KPI goals and just put up with the comments with a smile or find a different client to close the month. Having to make that decision sucks.
When I called those founders to scold the living crap out of them, they were both confused, repentant and a little surprised I was putting up such a show over a mere pick-up line.
Well, no. You donāt get to call them babe, sweetheart, honey, none of that! You have to respect them and thatās the end of it.
I know our reaction is futile, this is not going to fix anything, but the guilty feeling helps. Because, as we build our company, weāre terrified of the idea of creating a business where predatory behavior thrives. I hire young salespeople and they are sometimes sent to the lionās den. If they get harassed, itās our fault. Cat-calling is not the same as a sexual assault, but thatās where it all starts. The very least we can do is keep the founders we know in line.
We all hear stories. But our objective here is not to scandalize or to be controversial. It truly is encouraging to watch how the world is changing and, even though we donāt have, or pretend to have, the solution at Truora, there are several things weāve been doing to be on the right side of history.
In Truora we have three specific rules for women who are hired from the day they start.
- For salespeople: If a customer crosses the line, handle it however you likeāyou can put him in his place and we wonāt give you grief. Those arenāt the customers we want or need.
- For all women: our women can start a family whenever they like, with or without a couple, and thereās nothing to hide. Youāll have the leave required by law and three extra months to get settled with your new family. Weāre proud to celebrate the arrival of a baby astronaut.
The last one, and the harshest for the entire team.
- For men: if youāre accused by someone of any abuse or harassment an investigation will be started immediately and it can end in termination. To avoid power relations, a leader cannot have a romantic relationship with direct reports and be part of the company.
Context on this article
I understand this is the most ādangerousā article Iāve written so far and it can have quite negative consequences for our business. Iāve wanted to write about this topic for years and I havenāt out of pure cowardice and because I canāt see the positive impact it can generate as clearly as I see the negative one.
When we discussed it internally, the whole team was willing to publish it, but many worries surfaced: impact on our business, fear of being misunderstood, or hurting those who have had these experiences.
Commercial perspective
After the #metoo movement, there were a lot of negative consequences. Many male executives avoided mentoring women out of fear of being accused. Itās absurd and sad to say this, but if it does happen, what if potential clients of the company read this and feel like āOh, no. Speaking with those saleswomen from Truora is complicated.ā
What are our stats?
We asked three women how many times they felt uncomfortable by a customer or prospect. These are the answers:
- āIād say 3 to 4ā
- ā7ā
- āuncomfortable, 0, something that struck me as weird, one, the one I showed youā.
These numbers are small given that weāve been in contact with more than 500 companies in the last year. But this is in stark contrast with the men on our commercial team who reported zero incidents.
Saying that startups and venture capital sectors suffer from these problems might label us as a persnickety team and thus reduce investor interest.
I doubt this will be the case, and we can afford to speak out because of the investors that back us. Let me tell you a little bit about them: Iām 100% sure they support us and are āsome of the good onesā.
- Both Accel and Kaszek (our leads) have the best reputation you can have and they encourage and congratulate us for our efforts to foster diversity in our company.
- And I can tell you that since day one, it was one of the topics we discussed, and their commitment to improving the ecosystem was key in why we decided to work together.
Daniel BilbaoĀ is the co-founder and CEO ofĀ Truora, a startup that combats fraud in Latin America through instant background checks. He worked in the investment bank in Wall Street, is a mentor and partner for various startups, and is also an active angel investor.
If you’d like to learn more about Daniel Bilbao’s story, check out Episode 80 of the Crossing Borders podcast.